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Sunday, November 6, 2011

Kauravs vs Pandvas

Who is the righteous king of Hastinapur is a debatable topic. The only reason Pandu got the throne is because of blindness of Dhritrashtra. And after death of Pandu the throne is taken by Dhritrashtra.

Wrong deeds of Kaurvas :
~ Trying to kill Bhima
~ Laxagraha Episode

~ Draupdi Chirharan (Bhishma and [[Drona oppose this move recalling that a woman cannot be put at stake even if it is their own wife. However, Yudhishthira ignores their call and puts her at stake much to the ire of Bhishma, who in his frustration breaks his chair. )
~ Killing of Abhimanyu

Wrong deeds of Pandvas :
~ Bhima teasing all Kaurvas boys (Which is the reason Suyodhana started hating pandvas)
~ Sacrificing others for own benefits in Laxagraha
~ Draupdi insulting Duryodhana, Dhritrastra and Karna
~ Extermination of entire tribes to build Indraprashtha. This clearly shows greed of Pandvas towards kingdom.
~ Killing of Bhisma
~ Killing of Drona
~ Killing of Karna
~ Killing of Bhagdatta
~ Killing of Bhrurishrva

So deciding who was right or wrong is quite a tough call.



4 comments:

  1. There are no absolute right and wrong in this situation as u hav already mentioned wrong deeds of both the parties. But i wud say that although both parties were desperate to fight each other, but kauravas were more malign that pandavas. They were the ones who started all this shit by attempting to kill bhima and then plannig lakhshagraha. Bhima was wrong in teasing kauravas but if Suyodhana should have taken decision worthy of a Prince, he would have been crowned as the prince of the hastinapur probably.

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  2. I would say that the Pandavas are worse then then the Kauravas. The Kauravas only targeted the Pandavas in their wrong doing, however the Pandavas targeted other people as well who did nothing to them.

    The Pandavas also seemed to practice caste/tribal discrimination when you consider the following:
    1) Being happy that Ekalavya lost his thumb.
    2) Calling Karna Sutputra.
    3) Nishad tribals being burnt to death and used as a diversion in Varnavat Laxagraha.
    4) Getting tribals Hidimba, Uloopi and Chitrangadha pregnant then leaving them.
    5) Burning to death Naga tribals to clear Khandav forest.
    (What is interesting is that Duryodhana and Jarasandha who are supposed to be villains gave support and a high position to Karna and Ekalavya)

    Contrary to popular myths, the Pandavas also didn't respect women when you consider:
    1) An old Nishad tribal woman old enough to pass as Kunti was burnt to death as a diversion in Varnavat Laxagraha.
    2) Getting Hidimba, Uloopi and Chitrangadha pregnant then leaving them.
    3) Naga tribal women and children were burnt to death to clear Khandav forest.
    4) They didn't respect Draupadi as they shared her and then used her in gambling. Then did nothing while she was abused.
    (What is interesting is that Duryodhana who is supposed to be evil said that he would match whatever stakes Yudhisthira would put up, but he didn't stoop low enough to gamble his own wife/mistress)
    5) During Gita Arjuna describes women as becoming loose/corruptted when the men die.
    6) They allowed robbers/tribals to kidnap/enslave Krishna's female family members and didn't even attempt to rescue them.

    Contrary to popular myths, the Pandavas also didn't respect elders when you consider:
    1) When calling Karna 'sutputra', they were insulting his father and not Karna directly.
    2) The Nishad tribal woman burnt to death as a diversion in Varnavat Laxagraha was old enough to be their mother.
    3) Naga tribals were burnt to death to clear Khandav forest including elderly people.
    4) They didn't stop Draupadi from insulting Dhritarashtra when she called Duryodhana a blind son of a blind man. Infact Bhima joined in.
    5) After the war Bhima verbally abused Dhrishtrashtra.
    6) Krishna's female family members who were attacked by robbers included elderly women, yet the Pandavas and particularly Arjuna did nothing to help them.

    I think the reason why the Pandavas are considered good guys is because the authors didn't want to offend the ruling kings who were descended from them.

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  3. For all karna's Fans:

    (SOURCE-TRANSLATION OF ORIGINAL MAHABHARAT OF VYAS BY KESARI MOHAN GANGULY
    & WHICH IS THE ONLY PRECISE TRANSLATION AVAILABLE ON PUBLIC DOMAIN):



    Incident 1:Karna fled from battlefield from Arjuna(Virata Yudh):

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04060.htm




    Incident 2:Karna defeated by Gandharwa chitrasena:

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03239.htm

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03240.htm




    Incident 3:Arjuna defeat Ghandarwas & rescued Duryodhan & kurus:

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03243.htm

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03244.htm



    Incident 4:Karna defeated & freightened by Abhimanyu in chakruvyuhu:

    Hearing these words, Karna, afflicted with the shafts of Arjuna's son, once

    more said unto Drona, 'Exceedingly afflicted with the shafts of Abhimanyu, I

    am staying in battle, only because (as a warrior) I should stay here. Indeed,

    the arrows of this south of great energy are exceedingly fierce. Terrible as

    they are and possessed of the energy of fire, these arrows are weakening my

    heart.'

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07045.htm


    Incident 5:Karna's defeat at Draupadi Swayamvar by Arjuna!

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01193.htm



    What Karna's own friend Ashwathama & kripacharya think of karna:

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04049.htm

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04050.htm




    what Lord Krishna think of karna's bravery:

    Krishna said(To Arjuna):.I swear by Truth to thee, O friend, that my limbs are

    burning at the thought that while the son of Subhadra was thus advancing,

    consuming the hostile army with his shafts, even on that occasion the wicked-

    souled Karna was engaged in acts of hostility to that hero,Unable, O Partha,

    to stay in that battle before Abhimanyu's face, mangled with the shafts of

    Subhadra's son, deprived of consciousness, and bathed in blood, Karna drew

    deep breaths, inflamed with rage. At last, afflicted with arrows, he was

    obliged to turn his back upon the field.

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08073.htm



    & Finally karna himself accepting Arjuna's supeority:

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08079.htm




    FINAL KARNA ARJUNA BATTLE(DAY 17 OF MAHABHARATA):


    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08089.htm

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08090.htm

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08091.htm

    ACCORDING TO MY ANALYSIS OF THIS TRANSLATION IN THE FINAL BATTLE OF

    MAHABHARATA,ARJUNA & KARNA ASSAULTED EACH OTHER 35 TIMES WITH NUMEROUS,

    THOUSANDS & LAKHS OF ARROWS ………8 TIMES THEY NULLIFIED EACH OTHER ARROWS ,12

    TIMES BOTH KARNA & ARJUNA PIERCED EACH OTHER BUT THE REMAINING 15 TIMES ARJUNA

    PIERCED KARNA IN EVERY PART OF HIS BODY & KARNA’S

    LIMBS,YOKE,STANDARD,STEEDS,CHARIOT WERE RIPPED APART & KARNA WAS LEFT MANGLED

    BATHED IN BLOOD & KARNA HAD NO ANSWER FOR ARJUNA’S ARROWS!!!



    Authenciaty of vyas original mahabharat by km ganguly:

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/maha/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kisari_Mohan_Ganguli

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  4. FOR ALL THOSE WHO CALL ARJUNA INFERIOR TO KARNA,VISIT THIS LINK & FIND OUT THE TRUTH YOURSELF FROM ORIGINAL VEDA VYAS' MAHABHARATA TRANSLATION:

    https://www.facebook.com/karnavsarjuna

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