Sunday, April 11, 2010

Intelligence of Bhima

All these facts and extracts are from K M Ganguli mahabharat

Intelligence of Bhima” is a very controversial Topic. Many people think that Bhima as silly and angry warrior in Mahabharat Let us talk about Bhima’s intelligence.
At the time of the princes graduation tournament of Kauravas and Pandavas. Karna interfered in the tournament and excelled arjuna by accomplishing all the feats done by arjuna in a better way, then karna challenges Arjun for a fight. Actually Karna is stronger than arjuna at that incident. So, avoiding the fight between Karna and Arjuna is a very improtant thing for the well wishers of arjuna. Drona tries to avoid the fight by saying that, “Arjuna is a prince but Karna is not a king and So, he can’t fight with arjun”. But Duryodhana donates Anga to Karna and then Karna becomes the king of anga. So finally the fight was about to start & then Karna’s father Adhiratha comes there for giving his blessings to Karna. After this incident, Bhima understood that Karna is son of Adhirath (who is a charioteer). Then Bhima says that, “Son of a charioteer cannot fight with a prince ”. Nobody notices this thing except Bhima. And finally fight is avoided and arjuna was saved indirectly by bhima. This incident tells how intelligent Bhima was . He realizes the current situation and succesfully saved Arjun using his intelligence.

At the time of the Wax palace incident. Bhima gave drinks to six beggars. The reason for giving drinks to beggars is that bhima had planned to escape from wax palace.

After drinking all six beggers went to sleep. Then Bhima kills Purochana because he did many bad deeds. Finally Bhima sets fire to the wax palace. Then One lady begger & her 5 sons died in that incident. Then Bhima escapes from wax palace with Kunti & remaining Pandavas. Six people were killed in wax palace. Hence, Duryodhana thinks that Pandavas & Kunti were killed in that fire accident. That’s what Bhima actually wants. So Duryodhana stops his further attempts to search and kill the Pandavas.

You people may think that Bhima was very cruel that’s why he killed that 6 beggars
“See, Many soldiers were always killed in a war to save their king. To save our leaders many soldiers were killed in 1962 for Nehru during war of             India-china.  Also many soldiers were killed in 2nd world war to save Sir Winston Churchill. It means that to save respected personalities we have to sacrifice the lives of ordinary personalities. That’s what Bhima had actually done. Life of Kunti & Pandavas is definitely more important than life of beggars right”
After escaping from the wax palace, Bhima lifts all his brothers and mother single handedly and runs into jungle with so much weight in his shoulders. Finally Bhima stops, to bring water.Then He brings water to Kunti and others. All pandavas including “Undefeatble Arjun” and “Clever Yudhisthir” were taking rest in this critical situation, but “Silly and Angry Bhima” is the one who gave protection to everyone. Then he kills Hidimba even after the fatigue he had undergone . Actually Bhima needs rest but he didn’t take rest even for a single moment because he has to protect his mother and brothers. This is what real heroes would do.

See, how intelligently Bhima plans and executes everything but still we are calling him “silly and angry”

At the time of Draupadi Swayamvar. All the kings have started to fight against Arjuna. Arjuna didn’t know what should he must do at that moment. Even Yudhisthir remained in his seat. Arjun needed help at that time, but Yudhisthir didn’t realize that.

Bhima realizes Arjun’s difficulty & he starts fighting against all kings by taking one tree in his hand. Bhima uses that tree as a mace. Arjun saw Bhima’s might & then he also starts fighting fiercely. Finally all kings are defeated by both the brothers.

See how intelligently Bhima realizes everything and he always helps Arjuna in difficult situations. Upto Draupadi Swayamvar incident Arjuna was always saved by Bhima. After that during kurushetra and several other occasions Krishna always comes and saves Arjuna. It means that Bhima is very intelligent & an important person in Mahabharat.

At the time of Draupadi Vastraharan, Only Bhima tried to avoid the dice game, but Arjun and Yudhisthira were opposing him from the beginning . Both of them took the dice game as challenge against Duryodhana. It is written in vedas that “Playing with dice is bad thing”. Even Yudhisthir once said, 'Deceitful gambling is sinful. There is no Kshatriya prowess in it. There is certainly no morality in it.’

And still “clever Yudhisthira” was playing the dice game and " valiant Arjuna" was blindly supporting him. Bhima is the only person who was opposing that game.

Actually Bhima’s act is perfect according to vedas and Yudhisthira’s ideals, Still we are calling Bhima as “silly and angry”. And we are supporting Yudhisthir’s act of playing the dice game and betting their common wife .

What Krishna said at Vana Parva is , “I would have prevented the game from taking place, by showing its many evils. And if those who wait at his court, professing to be his friends but in reality his foes, had supported him, then I would have slain them all, along with those gamblers”

That is what bhima tried to do.He tried to avoid game and finally warns Yudhisthir by saying that “Sahadeva bring some fire”. And also takes a vow to drink the blood of dussasana

See how many similarities between Bhima’s thinking and Krishna’s thinking, Still Bhima is called “silly and angry ”.


At the time of of Draupadi Vastraharan, Bhima said,'Shall I, O king, slay, without loss of time all these foes assembled together, even here, or shall I destroy them, O Bharata, by the roots, outside this palace? Or, what need is there of words or of command? I shall slay all these even now, and rule thou the whole earth, O king, without a rival.’ But Yudhisthir and Arjun opposed him.

Many of you think that the words said by Bhima are not proper and the act of Yudhisthira and Arjuna is the corrent one . But actually Bhima’s thinking is good even at this inciden .

If Bhima starts fighting against kauravas only Duryodhana, Dusshasan, Karna and Shakuni …etc will stand for fight, Because all other warriors were not supporting Duryodhana’s act and so Bhishma, Drona, Kripa, Ashwathama may not interfere in the fight. But if they interfere then they will support the Pandavas side, because all of them were opposing Duryodhan’s act. If Bhima and remaining Pandavas start fighting they will easily tackle Duryodhan, Dusshasan and Shakuni….etc but only Karna can be a Challenge to them. But logically all pandavas can unitedly defeat single Karna, and also some other warriors may support pandavas in this fight

Pandavas will win that war because, they have done some great acheivements like
1] Bhima and Arjuna have already defeated all kings at Draupadi Swayamvar.
2] Bhima had already killed many Rakshasa’s like Bakasur,Hidimb etc.
3] Bhima had already killed jarasandha.
4]Bhima had already defeated Karna once in Digvijay.
5]Bhima had already distroy complete army of Nagas.
But Duryodhana have not done any great achievements like pandavas. So it is quite obvious that united Pandavas will dominate the Duryodhan and his Allies.

At Udhyog Parva Krishna said to Yudhisthir ' While the match at dice was in progress, the wretched Dussasana of most wicked soul, seizing that weeping lady by the hair dragged princess Draupadi, Duryodhana repeatedly called her-cow, cow! Restrained by thee, thy brothers of terrible prowess, bound also by the bonds of virtue, did nothing to avenge it. O grinder of foes, even censure is death. Death is even many times better than a life of blame.’

It means Krishna also supports act of Bhima indirectly. Even Hastinapur could have been won by killing a few persons at that incident. Instead of having a huge massacre of killing 40 lakh soldiers to win back hastinapur in kurushetra. Many warriors like Drona, Bhishma, Shalya etc were also killed in the war, this also could have been avoided if bhima was allowed to fight at draupadi vastraharan. Finally if bhima killed the kauravas at draupadi vastraharan many lives which were killed in kurushetra could have been avoided and the wives and children of the warriors who fought in kurushetra would not have become widows and orphans

So, Bhima’s thinking was right in this incident also. These warriors and their families would have been saved if Yudhisthira didn’t stop Bhima at this incident

Mahatma Gandhi was quiet when pakistan and india was spilt up after independence and the result is that even today we are fighting for some issue against Pakistan, this fighting will go on forever and ever. The paskistan issue is quite a small problem for us now. One day Pakistan will wage a nuclear war against us we might have to do a heavy sacrifice to win that war but if we wage a war against Pakistan(for the Mumbai terror attacks ) in the current situation we may win it with a small military casualities. Our country is always patient because we are taking Yudhisthira and Mahatma Gandhi as our Idol and treating Bhima as only “Silly and Angry ” warrior

In 1947 many Hindu womens were raped by Pakistan people, still we were begging for peace to Pakistan. So, we should fight for the insult given to our women. But we forgot the words of lord Krishna and we also forgot the “warrior feelings” of mighty Bhima and we remain unmoved like Yudhisthira . That’s the reason for those 10 terrorists to attacks Mumbai and kill 200 people.

Think guys ,Is it fair to forget the words of Krishna and the warrior feelings of bhima ?

But still we are telling that Bhima is “silly and angry ” ,
Are we doing the right thing


In vana parva Bhima tried to encourage Yudhisthir and to prepare him for war by saying, “What do we gain by living in the asylum of ascetics, thus deprived of virtue, pleasure, and profit? It is not by virtue, nor by honesty, nor by might, but by unfair dice, that our kingdom hath been snatched by Duryodhana.O king, in the woods, like that of any wild animal, is what a man of weakness alone would submit to. Surely, no man of might would ever lead such a life. This thy course of life is approved neither by Krishna, nor Vibhatsu, nor by Abhimanyu, nor by the Srinjayas, nor by myself, nor by the sons of Madri. Afflicted with the vows, thy cry is Religion! Religion! Hast thou from despair been deprived of thy manliness? Cowards alone, unable to win back their prosperity, cherish despair, which is fruitless and destructive of one's purposes. This, O king, grieveth me more than death in battle. If we all die in fair fight without turning our backs on the foe, even that would be better than this exile, for then we should obtain regions of bliss in the other world. Or, if, O bull of the Bharata race, having slain them all, we acquire the entire earth, that would be prosperity worth the trial. Our kingdom wrested from us, if we engage in battle, our deeds when known to the world will procure for us fame and not slander. And that virtue, O king, which tortureth one's own self and friends, is really no virtue.O son of Kunti, as thou art powerful, grind thou with thy might thy weak enemies, like Indra grinding the Asuras; and snatch thou from Dhritarashtra's son the prosperity he enjoyeth. There is no mortal that can bear the touch of the shafts furnished with the feathers of the vulture and resembling snakes of virulent poison, that would be shot from the Gandiva. And, O Bharata, there is not a warrior, nor an elephant, nor a horse, that is able to bear the impetus of my mace when I am angry in battle. Why, O son of Kunti, should we not wrest our kingdom from the foe, fighting with the aid of the Srinjayas and Kaikeyas, and the bull of the Vrishni race? Why, O king, should we not succeed in wresting the (sovereignty of the) earth that is now in the hands of the foe, if, aided by a large force, we do but strive? There is no virtue higher than fighting, for every Kshatriya!"

Bhima tried to tell Yudhisthira about what is written in scriptures, but Yudhisthira didn’t understand it because Yudhisthira is not ready for war.

Yudhisthir replies, "O thou of mighty arms, it is even so as thou hast said. But, O thou foremost of speakers, listen now to another word I say. Whatever sinful deeds, O Bhima, one seeketh to achieve, depending on his courage alone, become always a source of pain. But, O thou of mighty arms, whatever is begun with deliberation, with well-directed prowess, with all appliances, and much previous thought, is seen to succeed. The gods themselves favour such designs. Hear from me something about what, proud of thy might, O Bhima, and led away by thy restlessness, thou thinkest should be immediately begun. Bhurisravas, Sala, the mighty Jarasandha, Bhishma, Drona, Karna, the mighty son of Drona, Dhritarashtra's sons--Duryodhana and others--so difficult of being vanquished, are all accomplished in arms and ever ready for battle with us.”

This reply of yuddisthra indirectly shows that he is afraid of the kaurvas and especially karna was his worst nightmare(this information was told by yuddi many times ). Many of you think that Yudhisthira was right and Bhima’s was thinking in wrong in this incident

But actually same thing is told by Krishna to Arjun in Geeta.
[ adhyay 3, phrase no 4th and 5th].

After Bhima’s suggestion Krishna himself comes there and says, “O king, so unstable and waiting at present on the foe, I shall restore to thee, depriving thy foe of his very life. I shall, O chief of the Kurus, assisted by Rama and Bhima and Arjuna and the twins and Akrura and Gada and Shamva and Pradyumna and Ahuka and the heroic Dhrishtadyumna and the son of Sisupala, slay in battle in course of a day Duryodhana and Karna and Dussasana and Suvala's son and all others who may fight against us. And thou shalt, O Bharata, living at Hastinapura along with thy brothers, and snatching from Dhritarashtra's party the prosperity they are enjoying, rule this earth.”
But Yudhisthira didn’t agree to what Krishna said

Bhima’s thinking is matching with Krishna’s thinking here too


In the vana parva Jatasura comes to pandavas in Brahmana attire and stays there for a few days . When jatasura was in this disguise every one completely believed him including yuddisthira . Indeed Yudhisthir was trying to keep jatasura happy by doing all the necessary services to him. Yudhisthir didn’t realize that jatasura is an asura and he is not a true Brahmana. Finally one day Jatasura kidnapped Yudhisthir, Draupadi, Sahadeva and Nakul , then he tried to flee but he was caught in the middle by bheema and bheema says these words

"I had ere this found thee out for a wicked wight from thy scrutiny of our weapons; but as I had no apprehension of thee, so I had not slain thee at that time. Thou wert in the disguise of a Brahmana--nor didst thou say anything harsh unto us. And thou didst take delight in pleasing us. And thou also didst not do us wrong. And, furthermore, thou wert our guest. How could I, therefore, slay thee, who wert thus innocent of offence, and who wert in the disguise of a Brahmana? He that knowing such a one to be even a Rakshasa, slayeth him, goes to hell. Further, thou canst not be killed before the time cometh"

So, this means that bheema was the only person who learnt the true identity of jatasura at the first time itself but he didn’t kill because of the following reasons

1) He was in the attire of a brahmana
2) He was a guest
3) He didn’t do any harm to them( at the first time )

After telling these reasons bhima fights with jatasura .In that fight bhima with his superhuman strength killed jatasura and saved yuddithira, draupadi, nakul and sahadev

Here again we come to know Bhima’s Intelligence because he realized the truth before everyone and he is capable to taking the right decision too.


At the time of Ghosh-yatra incidence….Kauravs and Karna went in Jungle to meet Pandavs. But actually there intention was not good. They planned to meet Pandavs  to show them Power and Money. Real intension of Duryodhan is to make Pandavs jealous of his power and money. But it is fortunate for Pandavs ,that Kauravs wadge war against Gandharvs and they lost that war. Karna saved himself, but other were cought by Gandharvs. Finally  Kaurav soldiers askes help to Yudhisthir.

Then Bhima says,”It is very fortunate that our enemies are vanished by third party. Our work is done by Gandharvs ,so they are now our friends. Even Duryodhan comes here to make us jealous of his Money and Power , So he didn’t deserves our help. No need to help enemies (Kauravs) by fighting against friends (Gandharvs).”

But as usual Yudhisthir and Arjun forced Bhima for war. Then Pandavs wadge war against Gandharvs and defeat them. Pandavs rescue Duryodhan and his brothers from Gandharvs.

After completion of Vana- vas and Agyat- vas of Pandavs , Duryodhan didn’t gave back Indraprastha to Pandavs. For that Yudhisthir wadge war against Kauravs. Pandavs won this war, but they have to sacrifice with lives of nearly 40 lakhs soldiers , lives of great warriors like Bhishma, Drona, Abhimanyu, Ghatotkach etc.

This big loss of Kurukshetra can be stopped . If at Ghoshyatra incidence, Yudhisthir follows Bhima’s instuctions, then Kauravs will be eliminate by Gandharvs there only . So Yudhisthir will get back Hastinapur long before the Kurukshetra and without any war too.

Bhima was following, one simple logic during this incidence. That logic is “Our Enemy’s enemy,  is our Friend”. Duryodhan always hated Pandavs and considered them as enemy. So Bhima also consider, Kauravs as enemies. During Ghoshyatra, Gandharvs becomes enemy of Kauravs . So according to Bhima’s logic, Gandharvs are friend of Pandavs. Bhima don’t want to break friends  (Gandharvs) by wadging war against them, for saving enemies (Kauravs).

But Yudhisthir didn’t understood this simple logic and leaves simple chance to stop final battle of Kurukshetra.

Even nowdays we forget Bhima’s logic . We forget that, our enemy’s enemy is our friend.

In 1962 China wadge war against India. China was communist country, While USA was against communism. So USA was enemy of China in 1962. According to Bhima’s logic USA can be our friend in 1962. And Great thing is that, USA also was ready to supply weapons to India, without any cost. It means USA was following “Enemy’s enemy is our friend”. But unfortunately India forgets this simple logic and India declines help offered by USA. India was waiting for help of Russia. But Russia was also communist country at that time, so Russia didn’t helped India. And finally India lost that battle because they declines help of USA.

India declines help of USA because we forget Bhima and his intelligence.

This is very serious loss for us and for our country too.


After Ghoshyatra incidence … One day Jayadrath kidnapped Draupadi and ran away from Pandavs. Pandavs realizes the situation and then Yudhisthir ordered Bhima-Arjun to cought Jayadrath. Bhima-Arjun defeats all army of Jayadrath . Then defeated Jayadrath leaves Draupadi, and ran away from Pandavs to save himself. Bhima also went behind Jayadrath and finally cought him. When Bhima prepares himself to kill Jayadrath, Arjun comes at that spot and…..Then

Arjun said, “Don’t kill him!!!  Yudhisthir didn’t ordered to kill this wicked-soul. Let us take him to Yudhisthir.”

Bhima replied, “Oh!!!...... you silly Arjun and your big brother are always ready to stop me, while I am doing some good job”

Bhima replied again, “What you will achive ,after saving this wicked-soul (Jayadrath) from me ?.......That Yudhisthir will definitely leave this Jayadrath …So, Let me finish this wicked-soul now here !!! ”

Arjun replied, “No Bhima….Don’t kill him….Let us take him to Yudhisthir….Yudhisthir will decide his future!!!”

Finally as usual, Jayadrath was taken to Yudhisthir and Yudhisthir leaves him.

Yudhisthir forgets one simple principle…that is, “Don’t leave enemy, without giving him punishment. Otherwise that enemy will definately try to harm you afterwards”

According to Vedas, Jayadrath only deserves punishment of death. But Yudhisthir leaves him alive. Yudhisthir forgets simple principle which is shown above.

Then, that Jayadrath becomes main reason in death of Abhimanyu. Even Arjun’s life come in denger because of that Jayadrath . Shree Krishna himself broke the rules to kill that Jayadrath only. And finally that wicked-soul got killed by Arjun. It means Yudhisthir made big mistake by leaving Jayadrath. Because finally Jayadrath got killed only, but he made big damage to Pandavs before death. As usual Yudhisthir made big mistake only because, he neglects Bhima and his thoughts.

Even Prithviraj Chauhan leaves Md.Ghauri after defeating him 21 times. But in 22nd battle Md.Ghauri defeats Prithviraj and this time Ghauri didn’t leave Prithviraj. It means Prithviraj suffers badly only because, he leaves his enemy alive. Similarly Abhimanyu got killed only because, Yudhisthir leaves Jayadrath alive.

Now only Pakistan attacks on India in 1947,1965,1971 and 1999. But every time we leave Pakistan, after achiving victory. If India lose against Pakistan in future, then they may behave like Ghauri or Jayadrath. It is possible that Pakistan will not leave India, if they won against India.

Still, we are behaving like Yudhisthir and forgetting Bhima. Are we doing right??


In the final stage of agyatvas. Kitchaka proposed to draupadi for marriage but draupadi refused him by saying that she is married to a gandharva, but kitchka continued to trouble her. Draupadi even threatened kitchaka by saying that her gandharva husband might kill him if they found kitchaka troubling her but still kitchaka kept on troubling draupadi. Then he even insulted Draupadi in front of whole assembly. Draupadi was scared of kitchak, so she asked bhima to help her. If bhima kills kitchaka in public then his identity will be revealed and pandavas will be sent to vanavas again. So bhima devised a master plan by which he can save draupadi from kitchaka without revealing his identity.

Bhima said to draupadi , “Go to kitchaka and talk to him casually, ask him to meet you privately at the Dance class tonight. I will be hiding there and I will kill him, when he arrives at dance class. And also make sure that nobody notices your conversation with kitchaka ”

Draupadi had done everything according to bhima’s plan. Finally Kitchak arrives at the dance class, and Bhima was already hiding there. Bhima grabs kitchak like a lion grabbing a deer and kills him in brutal way. Bhima intentionally kills kitchak in a brutal way, so that everybody will think that the murder was done by the gandharva husband of draupadi for taking revenge of draupadi’s insult.

On the next day, kitchaka was found dead and everybody thought that the murder was done by gandharva, until now everything was working according to bhima’s plan. But then kitchak’s Brothers caught draupadi and they were trying to push her into the pyre of kitchak’s body. Draupadi started crying and was asking for help to everyone. But nobody was ready to save draupadi. Bhima heard this sound and he realized the situation. Then Bhima dressed himself like a gandherva and he jumped out from kitchen’s window. Bhima climbs on a tall tree and he tries to locate Draupadi. When he find out draupadi’s location, he quickly runs towards her. Finally bhima reached. When the brothers of kitchak saw bhima in the guise of a gandherva , They thought that this gandharva must have killed their brother and so they jointly attacked bhima. Bhima pulls out out one big tree  and starts fighting against them. Finally bhima killed all the brothers of kitchaka and saved draupadi again.

This is how bhima saved draupadi without disclosing his identity. This incident is a very good sign of his intelligence.



Tejas Umbrajkar

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Additional Incident

Here is an incident from the teachings of Swami Vivekanada glorifying Bhima

Once a poor brahmin came to Yudhishthira. He was poverty stricken. He asked Yudhishthira to help him by providing food to his family and helping him. Yudhishthira already had a hectic day in his court at Indraprastha and was very tired. He told the brahmin. Brother come after 2 or 3 days I will see how can I help you. The disappointed brahmin went away. On the way Bhima saw him and asked him what is the matter. The brahmin told Bhima his story and his meeting with Yudhishthira. Bhima smiled and took the brahming to the palace gates and picked up a drum and started beating the drum and shouted my brother is greater than GOD he is the new master of the universe. Yudhishthira came out and saw what Bhima was doing. Being a devotee of GOD Yudhi got angry with Bhima and said what are you shouting how can I be superior to GOD ? Bhima replied. Brother you have conquered death and death is your slave. Doesnt that make you superior ? Yudhishthira asked. How can you say that I have conquered death. Death can come to me or for that matter anyone any time. Bhima replied. Brother You told this brahmin to come after 2-3 days.
This means you know your life span and since you have commanded death not to come to you within the next 2-3 days you have postponed the oppurtunity to help this poor person. Infact you have also mastered his death so that he cannot die and death will remain at his service also at your command so that when it will come only after he has taken your help and enjoyed the full benefit of your help which you intend to give him. Yudhishthira realised his mistake and marvelled at Bhimas hidden way to teach him a lesson that dont postpone oppurtunity to do good deeds who knows you may not get an oppurtunity to do them becoz of lifes unpredictibility. Yudhishthira immediatly helpled the brahmin and thanked Bhima for opening his eyes.





  1. Nice interpretation by tejas which shows more light about the real strength of arjuna and bheema

  2. Jai Shri Krishna
    Yes I also agree. Bhima was a noble hero. Most people have a misconception about him. He had a high level wisdom and a superb presence of mind. His temper did get the better of him on some ocassions but why critisize him for that ? In our hindu religion there are many heroes and saintly people who had a quick temper. Below is the list of them

    Lord Shiva - He is bestower of boons but does get displeased remember Kamdeva ?
    Parshurama - Lord Vishnus avtar and warrior sage
    Durvasa - great sage
    Lakshamana - Lord Rams younger brother
    Balrama - Lord Krishnas elder brother
    Vishwamitra - Lord Rams Guru

    The above listed are revered by us then why such a stepmotherly treatment with Bhima ?

  3. thanx guys....
    i will write some more good things about bhima....

  4. Gandharva thanks for your help.....

  5. Hi
    Nice post
    but there are lots of flaws.

    You said many soldiers are killed in various wars and thats 100% true but killing of innocent people with unfair means was not a good act. Soldiers themselves give there life for the sake of there land and king but in this case baggers are killed by Bhima in wrong means. And this was not an act of intelligence this was an act of cruelty.

    And a person must be judged from his Karma not from his caste etc. And Bhima was the main reason of Kauravas hatered towards Pandavas. From there childhood he humilated Kauravas as he have strength of 10000 elephents and Kauravas are just human being. Just for his little joy he humilated poor Kauravas on daily basis.

    And thats the reason of Great war of Mahabharata.

    Jai Ram
    Dhruv Gaba

  6. to dhruv,
    see dude that act was much needed at that time......saving our peoples from wrong things, is good thing......thats what bhima did actually.......if bhima didn't kill that beggers then all pandavas may fall in big problem......as i hav already said,life of pandavas is more important than life of beggers......

    see bhima didn't kill them unneccesorily.......he had perfect reason for it.....so it can't be called as crual act.....

    now about reason of mahabharat........see bhima is better than all kauravas in every act......and durri never accepts this fact......and that is real reason of mahabharat......durri tries to kill bhima many times.......and this is again big reason for mahabharat.......we cannot support durri's act at any cost.......

    see in our school definatly somebody is scholar or good sportsman then us......but we didn't try to kill him na.......we accept the fact that he is scholar than me or he is good player than me.......
    but durri never did that and thats what the reason of mahabharat.....

  7. Tejas

    May be for you killing of innocent people is good but for me its act of Satan. And there is no need to kill these innocent people they just can save there lives and go back to Hastinapur but they act like cowards and killed innocent people. Even Osama Bin Laden have a reason to kill many thousands of people so what?

    Bhima have strength and he used to humiliate Kauravas and thats too an act of a Satan. Suyodhana was'nt the reason of Mahabharata the real reason was ego of Bhima. I cant support these acts of Bhima may be he was the winner of war but he is the reason of war the biggest reason. He dont have control on his tongue and humiliated Kauravas many times.

    And in school everyone respect the sportsman but if that sportsman will try to kill other students what you will do
    Will you still respect that person?

    Dhruv Gaba

  8. >>>>And there is no need to kill these innocent people they just can save there lives and go back to Hastinapur but they act like cowards and killed innocent people.

    if they go back to hastinapur then durri will try to kill them again.....so there is no chance to go back to hastinapur.....dude cowards are those, who r fighting from backside..like durri....tring to kill bhima by mixing poison....tring to kill bhima in lac palace....these are real coward acts....
    ok let us belive that bhima kills innocent people.....but what does durri doing??? he is also try to kill pandavas.....they are also innocent na.....

    >>>>>Bhima have strength and he used to humiliate Kauravas and thats too an act of a Satan. Suyodhana was’nt the reason of Mahabharata the real reason was ego of Bhima.

    all acts of bhima to humiliate kauravas are childish those acts are not malice.....and about ego.....actually durri posseses great ego......thats why he never accepts bhima's strenght....he always tries to do every thing better than bhima....

    >>>>And in school everyone respect the sportsman but if that sportsman will try to kill other students what you will do

    when bhima tries to kill durri or kauravas????

    take this topic to orkut.....so that all guys can share there veiws....
    dhruv don't make it personal ....talk friendly....

  9. I agree 100% with Ghandarva on this topic about Bhim's intelligence. From Gujarati MB, I would like to add few posts about Bhim.
    Laxagrah - ( wax mansion )
    Please, read it and give commnets.

  10. sanjay.......
    i m interesting dude.....how can i read your posts....

  11. Tejas,
    I am glad that you are interested. In this Karan blog, I have written few posts. Read under sanjaypatel2010 and you will find those posts. In MB community, with around 30,000 fans, I have written posts under my name. Ok, anything else, please let me know.

  12. Sanjay
    i will read it dude!!!!!

  13. Tejas,
    You have explained everything perfectly about Bhima.I agree with you on all the ideas that you explained 100%.

  14. thankx dude
    thankx to gandherva also
    he helps me to cure lots of grammatical mistakes......

  15. I agree with the greatness of Bhima. But your point number 4
    4]Bhima had already defeated Karna once in Digvijay.
    Could you kindly tell me the source ? Where Bhima defeated Karna in Digvijay ?

    best regards

  16. niraj,
    first thanx for reading me so interestingly.....


    read 2nd para......bhima brings karna under his sway....

    ask me if you hav more doubts.......

  17. Mr. Tejas. Thanks for above info. agree with this but above translation looks like K. M Gangulis translation.As I have already pointed out that every version is differant. C. Rajagopalacharis mahabharat mentions Karna being nominated for the first pooja instead of Krishna by Shishupala. Hence Karna could not have been defeated by bhima. Even in K. Ganglulys mahabharata and C. Rajagopalacharis mahabharata I can bring out several incidents of Bhima getting defeated by Karna. K. M Gangulys mahabharata is considered
    close to authentic. Not 100 % authentic. Infact here below I have recorded the confessions of K. M Ganguly from a website.
    " The entire translation is practically the work of one hand. In portions of the Adi and the Sabha Parvas, I was assisted by Babu Charu Charan Mookerjee. About four forms of the Sabha Parva were done by Professor Krishna Kamal Bhattacharya, and about half a fasciculus during my illness, was done by another hand. I should however state that before passing to the printer the copy received from these gentlemen I carefully compared every sentence with the original,making such alterations as were needed for securing a uniformity of stylewith the rest of the work. Quoting him. I should here observe that in rendering the Mahabharata into English I have derived very little aid from the three Bengali versions that are supposed to have been executed with care. Every one of these is full of inaccuracies and blunders of every description. I cannot lay claim to infallibility. There are verses in the Mahabharata that are exceedingly difficult to construe. I have derived much aid from the great commentator Nilakantha. ”
    As you can see friends that Prof Ganguly himself mentions that he has erred and his version in his own opinion cannot be considered authentic.
    Please dont get me wrong I am not a Bhima hater. Infact I think very highly of him. But based on KM .Gangulys version I cannot safely say Bhima had conquered Karna a man whom he lost to in the battlefield of Kurukshetra.
    best regards

  18. ya it is Kmg translation....i know it is not 100% authentic....it has very small mistakes....
    but see i have read same thing in Geeta press mahabharat......and even in swayambhu[Marathi Book].....i have read it 3 books .....you can check it out....
    ok i try to prove it.....

    see in Kmg it is said that Karna is King of kansa country right.....
    see kansa is village some where in bangladesh.....

    but suryaputra karna is King of anga ok.....

    see anga country is only on bangladesh....
    so it seems that both karna's are same.....

    and about kurukshetra....dude there are many incidence where karna have also defeated by bhima in battle.....there is very tough fight between bhima and karna.....i have long debate with ganderva also on same topic Bheem v/s Karn....

    now about that puja incidence in rajaji....can you provide me link or so.....
    i must read it......

  19. Hi Tejas,

    I agreed with you.
    But there are some little facts according to Mahabharata only.
    See Karna given his words to Kunti that he will not harm any other Pandva except Arjuna
    And Krishna knows that so just to save Arjuna from Karna knowing that he cant use deadly weapons on Bhima
    Krishna guided Bhima to have fight with Karna and Karna never used his full power against Bhima thats why Bhima/Arjuna are saved and from this we can see that Krishna was the greatest Planner of all time he used his skills to won the war for Pandavas.
    Karna and Bhima both have 10000 Elephants power I have read this in Gita Press Mahabharata.

    Thanks & Regards
    Dharamvir Gaba aka Dhruv Gaba

  20. Respected Sir
    I want to know more about Gita press Mahabharata. Mr. Tejas on google
    type mahabharata - rajaji. You may have to do some searching but you will
    get that source. Rajaji or C. Rajagopalacharis Mahabharata too metions Bhima making Karna run for cover but in the end it was Karna who prevailed and spared his life. KMGs mahabharata explains Bhimas stance as follows
    Karna knocks out all of Bhimas weapons Bhima leaps up on Karnas chariot and with hands competent to kill refrains (becoz of Arjunas pledge) then Karna make Bhima swoon. So it appears that the act of sparing life was first
    done by Bhima but it is not so. Becoz the statement is hands competent to kill NOT competent to Kill Karna. I know Bhima being strong has killed people with his hands but Karna was no weakling either. Hence Bhima from
    his point of view spared Karnas life. Please realise at the begining of the battle both the warriors were armed to their teeth but at the end it was Bhima who was completely unarmed. Karna was basically Arjunas rival and Arjunas is supreme among the Pandavas. This is mentioned in the Gita when
    Sri Krishna says Among Pandavas I am ARjuna. Earlied he had said among
    birds I am Garuda among mountains I am himalayas etc. He was talking about the best of the best. Even Lord Shivas boon to Jayadratha that he will
    check 4 Pandavas included Bhima excluded ARjuna. Hence 2 GODS Shiva and Krishna have sanctioned Arjunas superiority. And since Karna was an arch rival of Arjuna its clear that he was superior to Bhima. Even during Draupadis insult. Karna too was insulting Draupadi Bhima took pratigya to kill Duryodhana and Dushasana. He said Sahadeva would kill Shakuni and Arjna will kill Karna. Its clear he was doing job distribution according to capability. He knew he could match Duryodhanas muscle power with his own and take care of Dushasana. Shakuni being an inferior warrior was assigned to Sahadeve. But Karna was not assigned to Sahadeva or himself. He was assigned to Arjuna. This is proof that Bhima himself knew that he cannot harm Karna. Please realise I am not insulting Bhima but facts are facts.

    Best Regards
    Niraj Sharma

    best regards

  21. both guys.....
    i don't want to show karna below bhima by posting.....that 4th point......
    i think i have given perfect reason for that point....so we have to stop bhima v/s karna here only.....

    see my all posts are about intelligence of bhima.....not might of bhima.....
    see if we gone in way of your thinking.....like karna will defeat all pandavas at that incidence.....
    still what is wrong in bhima's thinking... "Death is even many times better than a life of blame" these are word of god.
    see if we thinks like bhima at 1947....then definately we were freed from problem of pak at that time only.....otherwise we get death.....and still that death is better than today's life of blame......
    because pak takes part of kashmir.....china takes big part of our country.....these are blames we are facing.....still we are not taking our part back.....this is blameful life we are leaving because of taking yudhishthir as idol.....

    see dude i want to told you these facts .....i am not here to argue for bhima v/s karna or which version is good or so.....
    you guys may understand......
    don't take personal.....keep reading.....

  22. niraj
    good interpretation of bhima's vow.....
    good logic.....

  23. niraj & dhruv
    guys tell me if any more incidence can develop.....
    so that we will develop....
    gandherva told me some incidences.....but those are related to arjun.....
    you guys tell me for bhima's intelligence.....

  24. niraj & dhruv
    i explaned u my logic on 5th incidence, i have logic for every incidence....which is beneficial for us and our country......
    if u guys want to know then tell me incidence no.....
    i will post it.......

  25. Jai Shri Krishna
    Good evening Tejas. I am sorry I also got a little carried away. Here is an incident which I read in some of the teachings of Swami Vivekanada glorifying Bhima " Once a poor brahmin came to Yudhishthira. He was poverty stricken. He asked Yudhishthira to help him by providing food to his family and helping him. Yudhishthira already had a hectic day in his court at Indraprastha and was very tired. He told the brahmin. Brother come after
    2 or 3 days I will see how can I help you. The disappointed brahmin went away. On the way Bhima saw him and asked him what is the matter. The brahmin told Bhima his story and his meeting with Yudhishthira. Bhima smiled and took the brahming to the palace gates and picked up a drum and started beating the drum and shouted my brother is greater than GOD he is the new master of the universe. Yudhishthira came out and saw what Bhima was doing. Being a devotee of GOD Yudhi got angry with Bhima and said what are you shouting how can I be superior to GOD ? Bhima replied. Brother you have conquered death and death is your slave. Doesnt that make you superior ? Yudhishthira asked. How can you say that I have conquered death. Death can come to me or for that matter anyone any time. Bhima replied. Brother You told this brahmin to come after 2-3 days.
    This means you know your life span and since you have commanded death not to come to you within the next 2-3 days you have postponed the oppurtunity to help this poor person. Infact you have also mastered his death so that he cannot die and death will remain at his service also at your command so that when it will come only after he has taken your help and enjoyed the full benefit of your help which you intend to give him. Yudhishthira realised his mistake and marvelled at Bhimas hidden way to teach him a lesson that dont postpone oppurtunity to do good deeds who knows you may not get an oppurtunity to do them becoz of lifes unpredictibility. Yudhishthira immediatly helpled the brahmin and thanked Bhima for opening his eyes.

    Hope you like this incident.

    best regards

  26. @Niraj
    once again some good story related to Mahabharata.
    Keep it up dude
    I really liked this story :)

  27. @niraj ,

    nice story about bhima
    you have great skills of writing , why don't you start writing your own articles in the blog

  28. @niraj
    in that fight when bhima get's on top of the chariot of karna , both fight with bare arms and bhima was thrown down from the chariot .
    ( it is said in KMG as "passage at arms " which means fighting with bare hands )

    @niraj and tejas
    Both karna and bheema are great warriors , each good in their own type of fighitng like karna in archery and bhima in mace . but fighting with karna in archery was a great thing done by bhima

  29. I also said this many times to Neeraj
    I think he need some time :)

  30. niraj
    good strory dude......
    i really like it........
    one thing i studdied from it......"don't ever skip your works for tommorow"

    good story......

  31. niraj
    your incidence posted.....
    thanks to gandherva....

  32. O Is it really true Bhima humiliated Kauravas for his joy ?
    But I never listened about this so far in my life ,plz explained me when it happened in the story of Mahabharata.
    But dont use the word 'poor' with the kauravas,they were equally intelligent.In there childhood days,they offered poisoned Khir to Bhim & when he ate,he got in the position not to sence anything(matlab bayhosh ho gya).After that Duryodhana with his younger brother threw the body of Bhima into the lake where he was biten up by many snakes & got saved because poisoned neutalized poisoned .Duryudhana always saw at Pandavas with hatred right from his child hood days even he was also hesitating to sit with the pandavas in the gurukul of Drona when they visited there for the very first time,when after the death of their father Pandu,their helpless mother Kunti returned to Hastinapur with his sons
    And plz can you tell In which part of India Hastinapur was situated ?

  33. Hey Guys where r u finding the location Of Anga that given to Karna by Duryudhana.....
    Karnal is some place in Haryana ,that was the Area under Karna called 'Anga'.
    Karnal is known as "Karna Ki Nagri".That place Karnal is named after Great warrior Karna.IF you dont beleive me ,Visit that place Karnal in Haryana,you will get the evidence about that,Karnal is near to my home Thats why I know

  34. Mahabharat ka Yudh dur dur tak 48kmts mein lada gya tha
    Also ther is very important place in Kurukshetra where Gita Upchar took place,it is near to kurukshetra Railway Station.
    On the way from Kurukshetra to Delhi,about 40-45kmts from Kurukshetra,there comes a place known as Karnal,That was the kingdom of Almighty archery immortal warrior Karna which was known as Anga during Dwapar Yug,not that palce which you guys are finding in Bangladesh
    You can find the evidences about that In karnal.
    Karnal was exactly the "Karna Ki Nagri" .

  35. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anga
    here is information of anga...according to wikipedia...
    from this it will be clear that location of anga given by me is correct....

    now about karnal...
    information given by prabhjot is very true...
    karnal is city of karna...
    but Anga(Kingdom of Karna) is different from Karnal(Home city of Karna)

    Karnal is home city of Karna...it means that Karna leave his life in Karnal before becoming King....
    I mean to say karnal is city of Adhirath and Radha...where karna leaves for many years....thats why Karnal is called as "karna ki nagri"....

    but keep in mind....Anga is different From Karnal.....

    prabhjot thanks for info about karnal....

  36. Tejas,

    Beautiful article, I feel some more incidents can be added.

    Dhurv, duryodhana always questioned the origin of the Pandavas. If he accepted them, he would have to give up his kingdom. He always conspired to target the Pandavas right from their childhood. You can imagine the situation if 101 kids bully five kids. The remaining Pandavas sought protection of Bheemsena, under Bheemsena; even though there were a hundered and one kauravas all of them were under the thumb of Bheemsena; such is the strength of Bheemsena. Hence Bheemsena is a hero, not a bully.

    They were not beggars who were killed in the Laksha graha; Purochan who is the architect of the Laksha graha; bribes some local people to build the lac palace and to burn it down. So they are fully aware of what they were doing and hence not innocent.

    Sri Hari and Vayu are inseparable; Sri Ram and Hanuman; Sri Krishna and Bheemsena.

    Indra ( Vali and Arjuna ) and Surya(Sugreeva and Karna ) are sometimes with Sri Hari and sometimes not. But Vayu ( Hanuman and Bheemsena ) is always with Sri Hari.

    Hence Hari Sarvothamma! Vayu Jivothamma !

    Jai Bharateesha,

  37. ya some more incidences are yet add.....
    thanks for your reply hrishikesh....
    you can mail me if you got some incidence....
    we will post if it is good.....
    thanks for reply and compiments....
    my ID is tejasumbrajkar@gmail.com

  38. 8th incidence is posted...
    it is posted by me directly...
    there might be many grammatical mistakes,please tollarate them and try to understand core of my message...
    i will tell some editor to update that message in good grammatical words...

  39. Hi Tejas. I read the 8th incident. I must congratulate you for a brilliant work.
    Yes I agree with Bhimas logic. Duryodhana getting killed that time would have saved so much disaster and loss of life and the terrible war could have been averted. In the Ramayana Lakshmana had a remarkable ability of situation anaylisis. When Sitaji saw the golden deer and expressed a desire to get it. Lakshmana said its an Asura in disguise. Was Lakshmana wrong ? No. When Maricha after getting hit by Shri Rams arrow and cries Save Me Lakshmana , Sita. Sitaji gets worried and tells Lakshmana to go to help Shri Ramji. Lakshmana says no this is an Asuras maya. Shri Ramji is invincible. Why is Lakshmana mostly correct in his anaylisis? Becoz he was the supreme devotee of Lord Vishnu. Similiarly Bhima being correct in his anaylisis is ample proof that Bhima was also the unmatched devotee of Shri Vishnu (Krishna). Great devotees of Vishnu are always in communion with him and words coming from them are rarely wrong.
    best wishes

  40. thanks...
    you have great knowlage of ramayana...
    even i think you have understood it very well...
    i didn't read much books on ramayan...can u suggest me some good books on both ramayan and mahabharat???

  41. Tejas,
    For Ramayan, read Valmiki Ramayan. This book gives more information than other Ramayans. I have read it so if you have any questions, you can ask me.
    Laxmanji was correct in many things but Sri Ram and Mata Sitaji were performing lilas so they performed certain acts which Laxmanji said were Asur mayas.

  42. Hi Tejas I agree with above posting. Coming to Mahabharata I feel
    you are quite an expert yourself but remember one thing No Sanskrit scholar has reached a 100% accuracy in Mahabharata. It’s a rather complicated spiritual classic. Even KMG which closest to accuracy also has errors. And you really cant blame them becoz there is a slight exaggeration of events even in the real Mahabharata written by Shree Vyasa. He had valid reason to do so because he had to give a correct message to society.

    best regards
    Niraj Sharma

  43. thanks to both sanjay and niraj....
    ya you have told me already about KMG...and i m agree with that....
    my intension in posting blog is not for comparison between MBH characters....
    i don't want compare between bhima and karna here in this blog....
    my real intension is to light on intelligence of bhima and importance of his thoughts for our country and Hindus....
    thanks again....i will read valmiki ramayan....actually hunumanji is great attraction for me....
    now even laxmanji is attraction for me...
    i m developing doc. on your suggession...
    i will post it as possible as...

  44. @niraj

    >>>exaggeration of events even in the real Mahabharata written by Shree Vyasa. He had valid reason to do so because he had to give a correct message to society.

    yes well said....
    even our work is same...
    to give good message to hindus from our blogs...
    we can post such more blogs unitedly...

  45. Hi Mr.Teja
    Try to search out some of the incidents about Ravana's elder son Meghnath.
    You will find attraction in him also.
    He was also invincible.He was killed when there were no weapons in his hands.He was more powerful than even Ravana.
    His name Meghnath was given by Ravana because he laugh & spoke as like clouds(megh) are roaring
    Many of the people dont know about Meghnath who also known as "Indrajeet"

  46. @prabhjot

    yes definately....
    i heard about Indrajeet and his might....
    he was great warrior...
    i will read about him...

  47. New 9th incidece is added....

  48. Very fine, Actually Vedavyasa in mahabharat says of Bheema ""vadatam varah"" or "the best among the speakers". Thanks

  49. yes.
    but it is well known misconception that Bhima was very silly and angry person.
    and i m tring to remove that misconcept only.
    Bhima was very intelligent warrior.He was main opposition to all kauravs.
    Arjun and yudhisthir were so much dependent on shree Krishna. but Bhima was'n depends on krishna.bhima completes his all vows on self power and also saves draupadi every time.

  50. Hi isn't the misconception of Bhima being silly and angry more to do with the old Dara Singh movies and kids versions of Mahabharat where he is shown to be a wise cracking smart ass?

    My favourite characterisation of Bhima was in the BR Chopra serial where he was shown to be inteligent, humble and respectful.

    My least favourite characterisation of Bhima was from Ramand Sagar's Shri Krishna serial and the ISCKON version of Mahabharat where he was shown to be malicious and arrogant.

  51. Hi Prahalad

    Bhima was arrogant and thats true thats why Lord Hanumana need to come to break his arrogance.

    Dhruv Gaba

  52. @Prahalad
    Here in my friend circle.....It is misconcept that bhima was silly,angry and fat guy...
    thats why i wrote this article.....
    even one more purpose behind this article.....
    i.e To give one Idol to Hindus....
    Bhima can be Good Idol for fighting against our enemies....

    Thanks for reply..


    Ya Bhima got arrogance for some time of span....which was broken by Hanumanji as u said...
    But let me tell u that....every Great person got arrogance for while in his life....and somebody will definately break it afterwords..
    for examples...
    Arjun's arrogance was broken by Karna and Eklavya....
    Karna's arrogance was broken by Bhishma and Drona....
    Parshuram's arrogance was Broken by Bhishma....
    and Bhishma's arrogance was Broken by Arjun in Virat war...

    so i mean to say that every great person of mbh had arrogance...
    and let me tell u that every great warrior from Kaurav side was fought in arrogance only...
    even abhmanyu had too much arrogance...

  53. Hi Dhruv

    I definetly agree that Bhim did allow his power and anger to get to his head and became arrogant so that Lord Hanuman had to teach him a lesson. I also agree that he was a bit of a bully as a kid.

    But what I'm not too sure about is that in the ISCKON version of Mahabharat Bhim taunts Dhritarashtra after the war that he killed his sons and makes his life so miserable that he leaves Hastinapur for the forest.

    If this is correct then in my opinion Bhim doesn't deserve to be respected.

    I'm just not sure if it's in his character to taunt a blind oldman like that. In the BR Chopra version he wouldn't, but in the ISCKON version he did.


  54. Bhima knowingly or unknowingly was the major reason of Mahabharata war. Because of his acts in his childhood the Mahabharata war is happened. Else Suyodhana was a good friends of other warriors like of Karna and Ashvtthama.

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